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Romashka comments on Flowsheet Logic and Notecard Logic - Less Wrong Discussion

25 Post author: moridinamael 09 September 2015 04:42PM

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Comment author: OrphanWilde 09 September 2015 05:34:44PM 2 points [-]

Try steelmanning these two argument styles, and you'll see that they're perfectly valid. Notecard Logic is only problematic when it turns into isolated demands for rigor; rejecting a position somebody promotes because they can't provide any evidence at all for it is perfectly valid. Flowsheet Logic is only problematic when you deliberately avoid re-raising a point in order to score "points" in an imaginary contest; failing to address meaningful points entirely is sloppy.

Downvoting because this, to me, is just an entirely undesirable expansion of the fallacy fallacy.

Comment author: Romashka 10 September 2015 04:53:17AM 2 points [-]

I have not participated in such a debate, and I think that generally, the flowsheet/notecard logic can be useful to prepare a single volley of argumentation at the preparative stage. For example, I want to discuss X in an article; I pull up my references (notecards) and sew them onto my own points, trying to include both pro and contra, and then send the document to a friend, with an understanding that he might outright condemn such organisation. The main thing seems to be the judge and not a debater when you evaluate your own work, and to judge consistency, fullness and conciseness.