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DanArmak comments on Subjective vs. normative offensiveness - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: DanArmak 28 September 2015 10:55:05PM *  -1 points [-]

I've always felt that EY's wording ends up using words like "ethical" and "objective" in a different sense from most everyone else, which invariably confuses discussions more than it helps.

The sentence "murder is not ethical, even when committed by a pebblesorter" has two implicit assumptions.

First, that "ethical" means "human!ethical", which causes confusion because other people (not just me) would naively read the sentence as a claim of moral realism, which is a different thing.

And secondly, that "human!ethics" is a nontrivial set that contains such statements as "do not murder" - which is effectively a claim that all possible human cultures in the past or future (a hugely varied set!) share much the same ethics, or else that people who don't are "not human". I disagree with this empirical claim, and find the latter normative one pointless.