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RichardKennaway comments on Hypothetical situations are not meant to exist - Less Wrong Discussion

1 Post author: casebash 27 September 2015 10:58AM

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Comment author: casebash 27 September 2015 11:56:25PM 1 point [-]

1) If a hypothetical is unspecified, and you ask for it to be clarified, then that isn't fighting the hypothetical.

Re: Too divorced from reality. "But fighting the hypothetical by challenging the premises of the scenario is exactly the same as saying, "I don't find this topic interesting for whatever reason, and wish to talk about something I am interested in."" - TimS

2) People are often too ready to consider things as a trap. Some people will claim that any convincing or hard to argue against statement is a "trap"

Comment author: RichardKennaway 28 September 2015 04:53:58AM 3 points [-]

Re: Too divorced from reality. "But fighting the hypothetical by challenging the premises of the scenario is exactly the same as saying, "I don't find this topic interesting for whatever reason, and wish to talk about something I am interested in."" - TimS

There are a lot of other things it can mean. For example, "I reject the agenda behind the hypothetical." "I reject the attempt to induce me to give you a soundbite that you are going to broadcast out of context." "The minute part of possibility space that you are focussing on does not merit so much as a millisecond of anyone's attention." "You are stuffing your desired conclusion into the hypotheses."

Comment author: casebash 28 September 2015 04:59:37AM -2 points [-]

"The minute part of possibility space that you are focussing on does not merit so much as a millisecond of anyone's attention." - which is exactly the same as: "I don't find this topic interesting for whatever reason, and wish to talk about something I am interested in."

"I reject the attempt to induce me to give you a soundbite that you are going to broadcast out of context" - that can definitely be the case. But this isn't really an issue specific to hypotheticals, just non-good faith discussions in general.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 28 September 2015 05:50:29AM 2 points [-]

"The minute part of possibility space that you are focussing on does not merit so much as a millisecond of anyone's attention." - which is exactly the same as: "I don't find this topic interesting for whatever reason, and wish to talk about something I am interested in."

"does not merit so much as a millisecond of anyone's attention" is a quite different claim from "I don't find this topic interesting".