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ChristianKl comments on Open thread, Oct. 5 - Oct. 11, 2015 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: ChristianKl 08 October 2015 09:39:21AM 2 points [-]

He is free to continue speaking about the subject, just not on LW.

Comment author: [deleted] 08 October 2015 01:36:37PM -1 points [-]

This is a very non-standard definition of freedom of speech.

Comment author: ChristianKl 08 October 2015 02:25:45PM *  4 points [-]

No, it's the standard right of freedom of speech that's enshirned in the constitution.

In general an editor of a newspaper can decide which articles the newspaper is going to publish and a website can decide which posts to publish.

Classically nothing about the idea of freedom of speech compels other people to publish your opinions. Rather the idea is about giving people the choice to publish whatever they want to publish.

Comment author: [deleted] 08 October 2015 03:54:46PM *  2 points [-]

That's just plain not true. There's a long history defining the exact role of the media in relation to free speech, and the conversation does not end at "media can print what it wants."

There's an entire subfield of journalistic ethics about this relation, and how the media has a responsiblity to protect free speech, even WITHIN the media itself , because the media has a role in how ideas get shared. A personal website in this regard is very different then a discussion board, as the latter serves a similar purpose of allowing discourse. As reductio ad absurdem of your definition of free speech, imagine someone in Iran saying "The Iranian people have the right to free speech - just not within the country". Even though it's technically true, it still doesn't say anything about the EFFECT of the restriction of speech on discourse (which is the purpose of free speech in the first place).

Comment author: ChristianKl 08 October 2015 09:46:28PM 3 points [-]

A personal website in this regard is very different then a discussion board, as the latter serves a similar purpose of allowing discourse.

LW exist for allowing discourse to refine the art of rationality. It's purpose is not that everybody can share whatever is on his mind.

Editorial and moderation choices are going to be directed by that goal. It's different than a medium like facebook that exist for everybody to share anything.

"The Iranian people have the right to free speech - just not within the country". Even though it's technically true

I doubt that's technically true. The Iranian government is going to punish speech by it's citizens that it doesn't like regardles whether that speech happens in Iran or whether it happens in another country.