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Lumifer comments on Sidekick Matchmaking - How to tackle the problem? - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Lumifer 03 November 2015 05:39:19PM *  0 points [-]

Suppose we live in a Nicht Watch kind of a fantasy

As who? As a wizard or as a muggle?

P.S. "Nicht Watch" -- translated as "No Watch" -- is a nice typo. We probably do live in such a world :-)

Comment author: Romashka 04 November 2015 07:05:52AM 0 points [-]

A mugglest muggle.

Comment author: Lumifer 04 November 2015 03:44:17PM 0 points [-]

I'll take a wizard as a sidekick, then, please :-)

Comment author: Romashka 04 November 2015 04:16:24PM 0 points [-]

I am sorry, this is not what I asked.

Comment author: Lumifer 04 November 2015 04:22:31PM 0 points [-]

What are you asking, then?

Comment author: Romashka 04 November 2015 05:18:39PM 1 point [-]

To solve what problem would you invite another human to your side?

Comment author: Lumifer 04 November 2015 06:50:35PM 0 points [-]

I am not sure what are you getting at. If I am a muggle, I have the usual mundane muggle problems and would need help with exactly the same things as in the real world.

If, on the other hand, I'm planning to meddle in the affairs of wizards, I am not sure a (muggle) sidekick can help me with the fact that I'm crispy and good with ketchup.

Comment author: Romashka 04 November 2015 08:08:53PM *  2 points [-]

Well, you see, I think the problem with Sidekick Threads is just that - people think sidekicks are a means to solve mundane muggle problems, their problems, like servants. Sidekicks are not that. They are people you trust, who agree with you that something needs doing. For example, my sister commissioned me to study roots of some plants the rhizosphere of which she wants to sieve for mites. That makes me her sidekick, because I see value in it, even if I would see more value in commissioning her to sieve mites out of my own samples.

People don't get sidekicks until a bit after they feel a visceral need to change something (which is why I think I'll quit LW soon - I don't see people who do want to change something here. (And you call us pessimists!))

Also, if the presence of actual vampires doesn't really shift your priorities much from your mundane muggle problems, then it is Lukyanenko's world, and not Tolkien's, which I consider the closer to reality and more useful parable.

Comment author: passive_fist 04 November 2015 09:44:12PM 1 point [-]

Part of the problem is that there's a huge gap between the "here" and "there" of some problems. I feel a visceral need to end the suffering in North Korea. Unfortunately I don't see any effective way of achieving that, or even getting close to achieving that, other than "spreading the message."

Comment author: Romashka 05 November 2015 05:27:17AM 0 points [-]

(It is not my business to tell you what to do, so please don't read it as such.) Then you would spread the message as best you could; surely the more people you turn to this, the better?

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 November 2015 09:16:57PM 0 points [-]

I don't see people who do want to change something here.

That depends on your definition of "here". I think having the LW Slack is a change.

Comment author: Lumifer 04 November 2015 08:20:20PM 0 points [-]

OK, so you see sidekicks not as servants but as comrades, brothers/sisters-in-arms who are fighting by your side for the same goal but content to accept your authority. Sure.

So, by asking about sidekicks are you really asking "What do you have a visceral need to fight for"?

Comment author: Romashka 04 November 2015 08:31:12PM 1 point [-]

Kinda, but notice that inviting people along means you are responsible for them in a way; I used this question because some genuine (and/or altruistical) visceral needs, fail this test