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Lumifer comments on LINK: An example of the Pink Flamingo, the obvious-yet-overlooked cousin of the Black Swan - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Lumifer 06 November 2015 06:08:09PM *  0 points [-]

What do you mean, pointless? The War on Drugs has enormous benefits for certain kinds of people.

Let me list you some. It keeps the restless natives in check. It's a good excuse for expanding all kinds of the power of the state. It's an excellent excuse for just confiscating people's wealth and as such it funds a large portion of the prison-industrial complex. It provides lots of prisoners for the said prison-industrial complex.

How can you keep civilization running without keeping everyone fearful of the Holy... err.. Evil Trinity of drug lords, child pornographers, and international terrorists? X-/

Maybe you want to talk about the agency problem with your elected officials -- in that case try down the corridor, Mr. Barnard; room 12.

Comment author: James_Miller 07 November 2015 03:19:13AM 2 points [-]

You are straw-manning. The war on drugs almost certainly reduces drug consumption and has almost certainly stopped lots of people from having their lives ruined by drugs.

Comment author: Lumifer 07 November 2015 03:44:39AM 0 points [-]

I'm strawmanning whom?

Notice that I'm actually objecting to polymathwannabe's claim that the War on Drugs is "pointless".

Comment author: James_Miller 07 November 2015 05:25:32AM 1 point [-]

I thought (perhaps mistakenly) that you were strawmanning the social benefits of the war on drugs.

Comment author: Lumifer 07 November 2015 05:54:16AM *  3 points [-]

I consider these benefits to be much lesser than the costs. But, as I pointed out, it depends on the point of view. It's an ill wind...

Comment author: polymathwannabe 07 November 2015 05:37:32AM 0 points [-]

I thought he was being sarcastic. But my sarcasm meter is terribly miscalibrated.