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-1 Post author: Gleb_Tsipursky 11 November 2015 06:06PM

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Comment author: Lumifer 11 November 2015 06:55:37PM *  2 points [-]

Why in the world is Tell Culture a "rational" relationship strategy?

And the "science-based tips" is just a slightly rephrased "one weird trick".

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 12 November 2015 12:56:48AM 1 point [-]

Tell Culture is the phrase I use to talk about open and honest communication, and that is supported by research about it being one of the best modes to use to achieve the goal of having happy relationships. I would disagree on the science of it, I cite quite a bit of studies there :-)

Comment author: Lumifer 12 November 2015 05:06:04PM 2 points [-]

Tell Culture is the phrase I use to talk about open and honest communication

That's a misuse of the term. Guess Culture people are perfectly capable of communicating openly and honestly.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 12 November 2015 08:52:17PM 0 points [-]

Maybe I'm confused. Guess Culture as I understand it is specifically about not being open and honest about one's desires and feelings, and instead expecting others to read your mind and guess what you want through subtle hints as opposed to honest and clear statements. Do we have a shared understanding of Guess Culture?

Comment author: Lumifer 12 November 2015 09:48:28PM 4 points [-]

No, we do not.

Guess Culture as I understand it is specifically about not being open and honest about one's desires and feelings

You understand wrong. Ask and Guess Cultures are two different styles of communication. Within both styles it's possible to be open and honest or to be closed and manipulative.

People from Ask Culture tend to perceive Guess Culture style as opaque and misleading because it's not their culture and they don't know how to operate in it. If you don't understand how it works, of course it doesn't look "open" to you.

Ask Culture interactions tend to be simpler, but the loss of complexity is not necessarily an advantage. I'll take flirting over "wanna fuck?" any day.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 12 November 2015 09:50:29PM -1 points [-]

Alright, guess we come from different premises :-) I will agree to disagree on this