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Comment author: Lumifer 19 November 2015 05:23:12PM *  2 points [-]

I conclude from the discussion that the term "rich" is too vague.

Not that I suggest that everyone adopt these definitions, but I usually use these words in the following meaning:

  • Rich -- "financially independent", you don't have to work if you don't want to and still have at least upper-middle-class lifestyle.

  • Upper-middle -- not worry about money too much, it's sufficient for comfortable and socially adequate lifestyle, but you need a high-paying job and can't really afford expensive extravagances.

  • Middle -- money is kinda OK, you can afford all the necessities and some (but not many) luxuries.

  • Lower-middle -- money is tight, you can afford most necessities, but few if any luxuries

  • Lower -- Paycheck to paycheck (if you have a job), no reserves, any crisis can thoroughly screw you up.

Comment author: Vaniver 19 November 2015 05:36:33PM *  2 points [-]

I just split people into "spends less than half of what I do," "reasonable," and "spends more than twice what I do." [/joke]

Comment author: Lumifer 19 November 2015 05:45:30PM *  2 points [-]

Yeah, these are also known as "poor bastards", "regular people", and "rich bastards" :-D

Comment author: Vaniver 19 November 2015 06:18:28PM 1 point [-]

There are three different variables: income, consumption, and wealth, which confuse any discussion of economic class. Someone who is high-income, high-consumption, and low-wealth is probably working >40 hours a week at a professional job and worried about money, but also might be driving a fancy car and living in an expensive house.

In terms of life satisfaction, I get the sense that the primary variable that matters is wealth, but in terms of social status (for most groups), the primary variable that matters is consumption.

Comment author: Lumifer 19 November 2015 06:31:45PM 0 points [-]

All true, but I wasn't trying to construct some sort of a comprehensive social stratification scheme. It's really just a quick list of what I mean when I'm using certain words.