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Lumifer comments on Dark Arts: Defense in Reputational Warfare - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Lumifer 04 December 2015 04:02:27PM *  3 points [-]

Because dealing with such things is part of their job, which (1) is valuable to society and (2) they are being paid to do in the expectation that they will, er, fucking do it.

SWAT teams are a new phenomenon and are just a highly visible tip of the militarisation of police. Why this is happening is a big discussion, but no, sending in wannabe spec-ops teams in full military gear to do ordinary arrests is not valuable to society and I don't think that the cops are (yet) expected to react with this amount of force.

Looking at it from a bit different angle, the cops are just being gamed. They basically allow anyone with a modicum of acting ability to direct the SWAT teams. "But that's what we are paid to do" is not a good answer to being gamed and controlled.

Comment author: gjm 04 December 2015 05:42:01PM 1 point [-]

As you will see in, er, a first cousin of this comment, I think most of my disagreement here was a consequence of my having underestimated how badly messed up policing has become in the US.

Comment author: Lumifer 04 December 2015 06:21:28PM 0 points [-]

In case you're curious, that's what a "police" SWAT team looks like.