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-1 Post author: Gleb_Tsipursky 23 November 2015 01:47AM

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Comment author: polymathwannabe 27 November 2015 11:58:21PM -1 points [-]

The implosion of Iraq, which paved the way for the emergence of ISIS. The implosion of Libya, which ended up worsening the conflict in Mali. The radicalization of the U.S. right wing, as illustrated in the Patriot Act, paranoid TSA procedures, and the Tea Party. By all measures, every response by the U.S. to 9/11 has ended up harming U.S. interests even more.

Comment author: brazil84 28 November 2015 11:45:25AM 1 point [-]

The implosion of Iraq, which paved the way for the emergence of ISIS.

The most obvious weakness with this evidence is that there exist numerous plausible reasons -- other than Tsipusrky Rage -- for the "implosion of Iraq" as you put it.

For example, the obvious explanation for the "implosion of Iraq" is that the American invasion destabilized the area and left something of a power vacuum. Your evidence provides no way of distinguishing between this factor and Tsipursky Rage. The same is true of the situation in Libya.

In short, your evidence does not stand up to scrutiny.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 28 November 2015 05:47:46AM -2 points [-]

and the Tea Party.

The Tea Party wasn't in response to the TSA procedures so much as the government's increased interference with people's economic livelihood.

Comment author: gjm 28 November 2015 12:28:08PM 1 point [-]

The Tea Party wasn't in response to the TSA procedures [...]

polymathwannabe wasn't saying it was, s/he was saying that all three of those things (Patriot Act, TSA paranoia, Tea Party) were consequences of the radicalization of the US right, which was part of the aftermath of 9/11.