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The_Jaded_One comments on The Growth of My Pessimism: Transhumanism, Immortalism, Effective Altruism. - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: The_Jaded_One 19 January 2016 10:59:25PM 0 points [-]

Yes, you can "outperform" without much difficulty if you consider getting a nice job to be "outperforming"

Getting a nice job with a stable relationship, raising children well and having a good circle of friends that you like, indulging your particular tastes is outperforming the average person.

Perhaps what you're talking about is radical outperformance - "being Steve Jobs", changing the world etc.

In my opinion seriously aiming for that kind of life is a massive mistake - there is no recipe for it, those who achieve it do so through extraordinary luck + skill + genetic advantages which cannot be reliably replicated by any method whatsoever.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 20 January 2016 08:43:15AM 1 point [-]

there is no recipe for it

There are lots of bits and pieces--e.g. the notes outlined above that two billionaires have signed on to.

In my opinion seriously aiming for that kind of life is a massive mistake - there is no recipe for it, those who achieve it do so through extraordinary luck + skill + genetic advantages which cannot be reliably replicated by any method whatsoever.

Since when is a high probability of failure by itself a good reason not to do anything? If you're a rational expected utility maximizer you do things according to their expected value, which means in some cases it makes sense to do things that initially seem impossible.

If you want to wuss out on life and take the path of least resistance, avoid all the biggest and most interesting bosses in the game, and live a life that has little greater challenge or purpose--fine by me. But frankly if that's the case I'll have to tap out out of this conversation, since it's a bad use of my time and I don't really want to absorb the attitudes of people like you, who explicitly state that they're totally uninterested in accomplishing anything meaningful.

Comment author: Lumifer 20 January 2016 03:43:05PM 1 point [-]

avoid all the biggest and most interesting bosses in the game

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