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The problem is not "understandign counting rules" the problem is that it takes mental bandwith to do counting. It doesn't take mental bandwith to know which of the objects in the last sentence was the destination.
On the other hand it's mentally easier to calculate the distance between month-3 and month-6 then between March and June. But that kind of thought didn't enter into Loglan. It just copied the way Western languages talk about months.
It's easy to take a dictionary and simply give every English concept a new name. It's quite hard to actually think at the fundamental level about the concept in question and how reality can be sliced. Jahai seems to slice odors better than English. But it might be not trival to teach Jahai derived odor categories.
Maybe for ordinary people (like me), the mental difference between March and June is not just the number of days separating them, and does not equal MD between, say, July and October. Calling them by numbers would mean having to re-tie the connotation tails to new symbols, nothing more.
Your discussion points are all over the map. We've gone way off the topic of ambiguity vs. specificity. It sounds like you've got an ax to grind against Lojban, and now Loglan as well. I'm not here to help you with that.
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I think it's worthwhile to critize the flaws of existing languages. I don't have a specific ax to grind against Lojban. It's an interesting experiment that provides data.
It's a more interesting language to learn from then from a language like ROILA which is much worth thought out.