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ChristianKl comments on Crazy Ideas Thread, December 2015 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: fubarobfusco 03 December 2015 05:01:31AM 0 points [-]

Subconscious and conscious cognition?

Comment author: ChristianKl 03 December 2015 10:37:39AM 2 points [-]

Subconscious and conscious are words that already have meaning assigned to them. That meaning differes from what System I and System II means. The point of calling them System I and System II was to not let people think of them in the existing notions but accept them as new concepts.

Comment author: Tem42 03 December 2015 11:32:49PM 0 points [-]

Fubar might not be too far off; close to what you are looking for is 'Conscious competence' and 'Unconscious competence', the final two stages of the Conscious Competence model.

Comment author: ChristianKl 03 December 2015 11:37:22PM *  1 point [-]

close to what you are looking for is 'Conscious competence' and 'Unconscious competence', the final two stages of the Conscious Competence model.

That model does exist but the four stage model isn't about what System I and System II are describing. It's worth to have new words for new concepts to not get the concepts confused with the old meaning.

Comment author: [deleted] 11 December 2015 09:09:51PM 0 points [-]

But as soon as you try to get these words into popular perception their meaning will shift to the simplest meaning regardless.

Comment author: ChristianKl 11 December 2015 09:40:38PM 0 points [-]

There's nothing inherently complex about the meaning of the terms System I and System II. They are just as simply as other binary distinction. The difference is that they slice reality elsewhere. The concepts in common usage aren't in common usage because they are simple.

New terms can teach people to slice reality in new ways.