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It's not very insightful if you already know that knowledge isn't a primitive construct, but justified true belief held sway for an incredibly long time and most people don't realise that there isn't a straightforward definition for knowledge until exposed to the Gettier problem.
How did that realisation change the way you interact with knowledge? As you claim your epistemology is improved, what kind of mistakes did you do in the past that you don't do anymore?
What does that mean? Philosophers proclaimed for a long time that knowledge is about
justified true belief? I think over my life I have been exposed to many different ways of dealing with knowledge and I don't think one of them was knowledge is primarilyjustified true belief.Justified true belief held sway over philosophers, but it is also what most people would come up if you asked them and they thought about it for enough. People understand that knowledge is about having particular beliefs, that these beliefs have to be true and that people have beliefs that are true, but which they don't actually know to be true (justified element). I bought this definition until I was exposed to the Gettier problem.
There an easy way to check whether that might be true. Look at the producers of dictionaries. Webster:
information, understanding, or skill that you get from experience or educationawareness of something : the state of being aware of somethingMaybe the guys at that dictionary are an expection. Let's look at the Cambridge dictionary:
understanding of or information about a subject that you get by experience or study, either known by one person or by people generally:the state of knowing about or being familiar with somethingStudying philosophy mislead you. Neither of those definitions speaks about justification or truth.
They aren't really defining it just using synonyms.
I don't think saying that
knowledgeisinformation that's due to experience of educationis giving a synonym.But even if someone defines a term via synonym they are still defining the term. It's worthwhile to note that different people interact with language differently.
At the moment where you accept the framing of the question as the only way to look at the issue, you miss a lot of real world usage of the concept in question by people who don't use the same framing as you do.