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ChristianKl comments on Stupid Questions, 2nd half of December - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: ChristianKl 26 December 2015 03:25:27PM *  -1 points [-]

Exercising does create a calorie deficit for the time frame during which you exercise even in cases where it doesn't produce a deficit at daily accounting.

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 26 December 2015 10:45:13PM 2 points [-]

It also causes a weight loss for the time frame during which you exercise (mostly through sweating), but I guess Brillyant meant both "calorie deficit" and "weight loss" over longer timescales than that.

Comment author: ChristianKl 26 December 2015 11:18:55PM 0 points [-]

If you are in an air condioned flat you raise the temperature by having your computer in the flat. At the same time the regulation system that tracks the temperature will regulate against your intervention. The air conditoner will go on and reduce the temperature again.

Brillyant doesn't account for the fact that human weight is a controlled system.

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an accepted way to measure where that setpoint happens to be. If you can convince your own body to change the setpoint than you can succeed with dieting.

That might getting rid of a virus. It might also mean eating with a noseclip as Seth Roberts suggests. I know a hypnotist who reports good results with shifting people's setpoint via hypnosis. Even Hacker's diet style charting could help with convincing your body to adopt a difference setpoint.

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 27 December 2015 10:39:21AM *  1 point [-]

If you are in an air condioned flat you raise the temperature by having your computer in the flat. At the same time the regulation system that tracks the temperature will regulate against your intervention. The air conditoner will go on and reduce the temperature again.

IOW no net heat surplus is created. Air conditioners don't violate the first law of thermodynamics.

You can say that "All people who create a calorie deficit via diet and exercise lose weight" is useless, that it is misleading, that it has wrong connotations, but you can't say it is false (let alone "false in a trivial way") unless there are people who create a calorie deficit via diet and exercise but don't lose weight. (Note: "deficit" != "any expenditure", "deficit" = "expenditure exceeding gains and savings".)