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Lumifer comments on Stupid Questions, 2nd half of December - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Lumifer 12 January 2016 03:44:56PM 2 points [-]

Based on things I've read on the internet (Cochrane) (not to be confused with the Cochrane Library that actually produces meta-analyses, just some guy named Cochrane who can't land a tenure track job teaching physics) regarding brain size and IQ test results, I believe that it is more probable than not that Black People are less intelligent than White People, that the jury's still out on Asian People, and that this is due in no small part to genetics.

You're much confused in the beginning, but it will take too long to sort you our, so I'll cut to the chase.

I believe that blacks (the Sub-Saharan genetic pool) have a lower average IQ than whites (European genetic pool), by about one standard deviation (15 points). The jury is not out on Asians -- East Asians, specifically Chinese Han, have an average IQ higher than whites, by about 10 points, if I remember correctly. Moreover, Ashkenazi Jews also have a higher average IQ than whites.

That is the very definition of race.

You seem to be... limited in your understanding of how people use words.

Christian Identity White Supremacists

Woot! I think it's the first time I've been called that. It's so new and exciting! Tell me about myself, I'm all ears.

Comment author: gjm 12 January 2016 04:50:08PM -1 points [-]

I believe that [...]

My impression is that Usul was interested not only in your opinion about racial IQ variations, but also in where your information comes from.

I think it's the first time I've been called that.

He didn't call you a Christian Identity white supremacist, he said this discussion reminds him of arguing with Christian Identity white supremacists. Those are very different things.

(You don't seem particularly like a Christian Identity white supremacist to me, for what it's worth. I think Usul is thinking too impressionistically.)

Comment author: Lumifer 12 January 2016 05:23:45PM 1 point [-]

My impression is that Usul was interested not only in your opinion about racial IQ variations, but also in where your information comes from.

My impression is that Usul is interested in neither of those things as he clearly went into snide mode.

He didn't call you a Christian Identity white supremacist

Let me quote him with the relevant part bolded:

...trolling Christian Identity White Supremacists back in the day, not sure if I should be surprised to find it here or not.

Instead of calling me a nutcase waiting for the Rapture while sitting in an Idaho bunker surrounded by beans and ammo, he's just being passive-aggressive.

Comment author: gjm 12 January 2016 06:22:03PM -1 points [-]

he clearly went into snide mode.

Going into snide mode is quite consistent with still wanting to understand the other guy's position and where it came from.

to find it here

My impression is that "it" wasn't meant to mean "the Christian Identity movement" but "racial prejudice".