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I have an intuition that I have dissolved the sleeping beauty paradox as semantic confusion about the word "probability". I am aware that my reasoning is unlikely to be accepted by the community, but I am unsure what is wrong with it. I am posting this to the "stupid questions" thread to see if helps me gain any insight either on Sleeping Beauty or on the thought process that led to me feeling like I've dissolved the question.
When the word "probability" is used to describe the beliefs of an agent, we are really talking about how that agent would bet, for instance in an ideal prediction market. However, if the rules of the prediction market are unclear, we may get semantic confusion.
In general, when you are asked "What is the probability that the coin came up heads" we interpret this as "how much are you willing to pay for a contract that will be worth 1 dollar if the coin came up heads, and nothing if it came up tails". This seems straight forward, but in the sleeping beauty problem, the agent may make the same bet multiple times, which introduces ambiguity.
Person 1 may interpret then the question as follows: "Every time you wake up, there is a new one dollar bill on the table. How much are you willing to pay for a contract that gives you the dollar if the coin came up heads?". In this interpretation, you get to keep all the dollars you won throughout the experiment.
In contrast, person 2 may interpret the question as follows "There is one dollar on the table. Every time you wake up, you are given a chance to revise the price you are willing to pay for the contract, but all earlier bets are cancelled such that only the last bet counts". In this interpretation, there is only one dollar to be won.
Person 1 will conclude that the probability is 1/3, and person 2 will conclude that the probability is 1/2. However, once they agree on what bet they are asked to make, the disagreement is dissolved.
The first definition is probably better matched to current usage of the word. This gives most rationalists a strong intuition that the thirder position is "correct". However, if you want to know which definition is most useful or applicable, this really depends on the disguised query, and on which real world scenario the parable is meant to represent. If the payoff utility is only determined once (at the end of the experiment), then the halfer definition could be more useful?
ETA: After reading the Wikipedia:Talk section for Sleeping Beauty, it appears that this idea is not original and that in fact a lot of people have reached the same conclusion. I should have read that before I commented...
Nobody who thinks that the probability is at 75% will buy into the prediction market when the prediction market is at 75%.
A better way to phrase it would be to say: "If you are forced to buy a share in the prediction market, the probability of the event is that probability where you don't care which side of the bet you take."
Sure, this is true, thanks for noticing. Sorry about the inaccurate/incorrect wording. It does however not affect the main idea.