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21 Post author: NancyLebovitz 23 December 2015 06:29PM

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Comment author: gjm 25 December 2015 04:40:57PM 9 points [-]

Definitely don't unless strong evidence emerges of an actual serious problem. Having an effectively anon account is valuable.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 25 December 2015 05:50:22PM 10 points [-]

OK. It won't be banned.

I don't know whether it would be possible to make it into a non-voting account, but if so, would that be a good idea?

Comment author: ChristianKl 25 December 2015 06:44:13PM 14 points [-]

It would certainly be a good idea. The account has no business of casting votes.

Comment author: username2 31 May 2016 01:57:53PM 0 points [-]

Counterexample: someone uses this account to ask a question and upvotes people who give helpful replies.

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 26 December 2015 12:22:05PM 2 points [-]

it would be possible to make it into a non-voting account

And, while we're at it, to make it impossible to change its password as someone did to the Username account.

Comment author: Viliam 26 December 2015 05:45:04PM 3 points [-]

Alternatively, make a script for (a) undoing all votes, and (b) resetting the password, and run it every midnight.

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 26 December 2015 10:48:27PM 1 point [-]

(b) can't be done if someone has changed the password before the script ran... unless the script has access to the e-mail the account was created with so it can do the "password forgotten" thing, now that I think about it... Does anybody know the e-mail of the Username account?

Comment author: ChristianKl 26 December 2015 11:22:40PM 3 points [-]

A script can talk directly to the database. It doesn't need passwords to access an account.

Comment author: Clarity 27 December 2015 01:54:54PM *  3 points [-]

I'm concerned you're underestimating VoiceofRa.

Consider the worse case scenario: That he is the same handle behind the several antisocial accounts he has been associated with.

He's streaks of valid contributions indicate a degree of sophistication and high function.

The harm he causes, in spite of several attempted interventions in the past that have been unsuccessful, earmarks his malignance.

Most importantly, his persistence in contributing here indicates that he has found a sense of community here.

This issue will not easily be resolved by banning every account he makes, or catching every work around. It will be resolved by helping him resolve the underlying issue: the alleged incompatibility of his style of forum usage with that of the broader community.

Has anyone suggested alternative communities he may prefer, for instance?

Forgotten the sequences so quickly?

"When you surround the enemy Always allow them an escape route. They must see that there is An alternative to death." —Sun Tzu, The Art of War, Cloud Hands edition

"Don't raise the pressure, lower the wall." —Lois McMaster Bujold, Komarr

Worst case scenario, this is only the beginning. Do not make enemies annoying gnat's for they can be a million times more annoying than dragons.

Comment author: polymathwannabe 28 December 2015 12:25:58PM 0 points [-]

his persistence in contributing here indicates that he has found a sense of community here

Likelier explanation: this is a trolling space too fun for him to abandon.

Comment author: Lumifer 28 December 2015 04:31:06PM 5 points [-]

He isn't really into trolling. He just reiterates his views and heavily downvotes his opponents.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 02 January 2016 07:04:55PM 3 points [-]

Troll is one of those words tailor made for tabooing.