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g_pepper comments on What EAO has been doing, what it is planning to do, and why donating to EAO is a good idea - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Jiro 29 December 2015 06:53:24PM *  3 points [-]

Those ideas are perfectly rational, given EA premises about maximizing all utility (and the belief that animals have utility). It's just that they're weird conclusions because they are based on weird premises..

Most people would when they encounter such weird conclusions, begin to question the premises, not let themselves get led to their doom. It's possible to bite the bullet too much.

Comment author: g_pepper 29 December 2015 07:12:50PM *  1 point [-]

Most people would when they encounter such weird conclusions, begin to question the premises, not let themselves get led to their doom. It's possible to bite the bullet too much.

Great point. It is like the old saying goes:

that which is one person's modus ponens is another person's modus tollens

ETA:

However, none of this is an indictment of EA - one can believe in the principles of EA without also being a strict hedonistic utilitarian. The weird conclusions follow from utilitarianism rather than from EA.