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ChristianKl comments on What EAO has been doing, what it is planning to do, and why donating to EAO is a good idea - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Mac 29 December 2015 04:47:54PM -1 points [-]
  • Drifting from rationality

From the post, "This means that we need to start by spreading our values, before talking about implementation." Splitting the difficult "effective" part from the easy "altruism" part this early in the movement is troubling. The path of least resistance is tempting.

  • Closed-minded

Karma for the post is relatively low, and a lot of comments, including the top-rated, can be summarized as "Fun idea, but too crazy to even consider."

  • Overly-optimistic

The post glosses over the time value of money/charitable donations and the GWWC member quit rate, so I think it's reasonable to say that the Gates Foundation will almost definitely have moved more time value-adjusted money than that of GWWC's members over the next twenty years. Therefore, speculating that GWWC could be a "big deal" comparable to the Gates Foundation in this time frame is overly-optimistic. Still disagree? Let's settle on a discount rate and structure a hypothetical bet, I'll give you better than 20-1 odds.

  • Self-congratulatory

I don't actually believe this is a big problem in itself, but if the other problems exist it seems like this would exacerbate them.

Comment author: ChristianKl 01 January 2016 05:03:14PM -1 points [-]

Closed-minded

Karma for the post is relatively low, and a lot of comments, including the top-rated, can be summarized as "Fun idea, but too crazy to even consider."

If a net positive reception is the best example you can bring of EA being close-minded it seems to me that anybody who hasn't looked into the issue of whether EA is open-minded should update in the direction of EA being more open-minded than their priors suggest.