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Comment author: The_Lion 06 January 2016 04:43:48AM 1 point [-]

Rosa Parks didn't start her own non-racist bus service. She helped to create a climate in which the existing bus service providers couldn't get away with telling black people where to sit.

So, how did the movement she started work out for black people?

Hmm, it appears that half a century afterwards most blacks live in crime-field hell-holes where more of them get killed in a single year (by other blacks) than were lynched during the entire century of Jim Crow.

Comment author: gjm 06 January 2016 10:57:09AM 8 points [-]

Oh, hello, Eugine. Nice to know you can still be relied on to say much the same things any time anyone mentions race.

The latest statistics I can find show a homicide rate for black Americans of about 20 per 100k per year. In 1950 the corresponding figure was a little under 30 per 100k per year. So those "crime-field hell-holes" would seem to be less bad than whatever places black people were living in in 1950.

Why you're comparing overall homicide rates to lynching rates, I have no idea. (Nor in fact why you're talking about lynchings at all.) The problem with lynchings was never that they were responsible for a large fraction of deaths of black people, and the civil rights movement was mostly concerned with things other than lynchings.

Comment author: bogus 06 January 2016 06:03:18AM *  1 point [-]

Hmm, it appears that half a century afterwards most blacks live in crime-field hell-holes where more of them get killed in a single year (by other blacks) than were lynched during the entire century of Jim Crow.

Does this really apply to "most blacks", or are those who live in crime-fied inner cities just more salient to us because that stuff gets reported in the news?

Comment author: The_Lion 06 January 2016 09:11:34AM 2 points [-]

Does this really apply to "most blacks", or are those who live in crime-fied inner cities

Most blacks do in fact live in the inner cities.

just more salient to us because that stuff gets reported in the news?

What news sources are you reading? Most mainstream news sources don't report on the goings on in the inner cities at all unless it involves blacks getting shot by cops, or can be spun as a natural reaction to a black getting shot by a cop.

Comment author: gjm 06 January 2016 11:05:35AM *  2 points [-]

Most blacks do in fact live in the inner cities.

According to this Brookings Institute report the majority of black people living in metropolitan areas in the US live in the suburbs.

Most mainstream news sources

... are more likely to report events when they are (1) unusual and/or (2) shocking. By "inner cities" I take it you mean poor central residential areas. Not much happens there that would be of interest to most mainstream news sources.

[EDITED for slightly more precise wording.]