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MaximumLiberty comments on [Stub] The problem with Chesterton's Fence - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: MaximumLiberty 12 January 2016 07:03:04PM 1 point [-]

The work of Elinor Ostrom (2009 Nobel prize co-winner in economics) seems relevant. The Wikipedia page on her does a decent introduction. The relevant part of her work was in how societies use customs (other than market transactions) to regulate use of common resources. The relevant observation here is that the customs often seem strange and non-sensical, but they work. She summarized her findings, "A resource arrangement that works in practice can work in theory."

Similarly, the work of Peter Leeson on ordeals seems relevant. Ordeals were medieval methods of determining the outcome of what would today be a lawsuit. An example of an ordeal is (literally) trial by fire or trial by battle. Leeson shows how this facially strange and non-sensical custom actually served its purpose of dispensing justice. His research along these lines is surprising, unorthodox, and amusing.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 13 January 2016 12:00:53PM 0 points [-]

Yes. I suspect that Chesteron's fence arguments are stronger in traditional cultures. Markets and democracies seem to have much greater self-correcting abilities, so the argument seems to be weaker (as long as you're not touching the key parts of the systems).

Comment author: Lumifer 13 January 2016 03:54:16PM 1 point [-]

Markets and democracies seem to have much greater self-correcting abilities, so the argument seems to be weaker

I don't know about that. If you (try to) remove a useful fence, the system might self-correct by removing you.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 13 January 2016 04:01:56PM 0 points [-]

...and thus the system has self-corrected ^_^ and almost everyone is happy.

Comment author: MaximumLiberty 12 January 2016 08:38:52PM 0 points [-]

And similarly, here's a quotation from economist George Stigler: “every durable social institution or practice is efficient.” ("Efficient" has a specific meaning in context. Don't over-extend it to "good" or similar ideas.)