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RichardKennaway comments on Are we failing the ideological Turing test in the case of ISIS? (a crazy ideas thread) - Less Wrong Discussion

-1 Post author: Val 09 January 2016 04:42PM

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Comment author: gjm 10 January 2016 08:19:40PM 6 points [-]

You're right that this is hotly debated, because some people are very confident that there is a systematic process of kowtowing to Islamic immigrants (because of some sort of left-leaning ideology) and some other people are very confident that there isn't (and that the first lot are claiming there is because of some sort of right-leaning ideology).

It seems to me that the sensible thing to do, if you're aware of this hot debate and want to avoid a firefight, is not

  • to make a post that casually asserts one side's preferred position, and then when questioned say you don't want to argue about it,

but

  • to refrain from making unnecessary hot-button statements in the first place.
Comment author: RichardKennaway 12 January 2016 12:59:28PM -1 points [-]

It seems to me that the sensible thing to do, if you're aware of this hot debate and want to avoid a firefight, is not

to make a post that casually asserts one side's preferred position, and then when questioned say you don't want to argue about it,

but

to refrain from making unnecessary hot-button statements in the first place.

Each side's preferred position already is a hot-button statement to the other.

Comment author: gjm 12 January 2016 01:07:31PM 3 points [-]

Right. Which is why I am suggesting that if Val genuinely wanted to avoid distraction and dispute, s/he would have done better simply not to throw in that remark about "the predominantly left-leaning political elite in Europe encouraging the acceptance of and submission to Islamic culture in Europe". It's not like it was essential to the actual point Val was making.

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