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Val comments on Are we failing the ideological Turing test in the case of ISIS? (a crazy ideas thread) - Less Wrong Discussion

-1 Post author: Val 09 January 2016 04:42PM

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 10 January 2016 03:47:25PM 4 points [-]

I'm going to underline that what you're trying to do isn't an ideological Turing Test. An ideological Turing Test is expressing your opponents point of view in such a way that they agree you've done a good job of expressing it.

This isn't a matter of speculating on motives, or even getting the motives right. It's a matter of becoming able to set aside your own point of view to express another point of view, accurately and non-ironically, .It's at least plausible that being able to pass the Turing Test will help with being able to communicate with and understand people you don't agree with.

Comment author: Val 12 January 2016 06:22:48PM 1 point [-]

I'm not trying to do an ideological Turing Test here. I know what it is, I've seen quite a number of them here. As there are probably zero ISIS supporters (openly commenting as such) on this forum, such a test would not be feasible to do. The idea of a general theist/atheist ideological Turing Test was abandoned some time ago because it happens that this site is frequented by much more atheists than theists.

What I meant with the title is not that "hence with this article I shall conduct an ideological Turing Test", but that we, as in Western society in general might be failing it because we don't know enough about how they think.