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4 Post author: MrMind 18 January 2016 09:42AM

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Comment author: ChristianKl 18 January 2016 01:02:58PM 4 points [-]

Do we have a way to measure how happy farm animals happen to be? If we don't than developing a metric might produce huge gains in animal welfare, because it allows us to optimize for it better.

Comment author: Vaniver 18 January 2016 07:47:27PM 11 points [-]

Temple Grandin has some work that's relevant, and argues for quantitative measures. One of the easy metrics to use now are bodily integrity things, like the percentage of animals who are lame when they make it to the slaughterhouse. A lame animal is unlikely to be a happy or well-treated animal, and it seems easy to measure and compare.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 19 January 2016 09:56:06AM 9 points [-]

She's also done work on what animals are willing to take some trouble to get-- chickens apparently care more about having a secluded place to lay eggs than they care about getting outside.