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15 Post author: Gleb_Tsipursky 19 January 2016 11:19PM

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Comment author: The_Jaded_One 23 January 2016 06:46:01PM *  1 point [-]

IMO trying to sell rationality to people is like trying to run a corner shop that sells nonalcoholic beer, sticks of celery and bottles of springwater.

Sure, we all know it's good for you, but the place across the road is selling Mars Bars, Budweiser and Marlboros.


The memes and ideas that get (most) people excited are not the careful, cautious ideas of map-territory rationality. Personally, I like map-territory rationality, it excites me, but I realise that I am a bit of a freak because of this.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 24 January 2016 12:36:08AM 1 point [-]

I hear you, which is why it's important to wrap rationality in forms that make it look like Mars Bars. Here is one example of how I do this. As you can see, this piece was shared over 1K times, so pretty popular (the baseline average for that site is around 100 shares).

Comment author: The_Jaded_One 09 February 2016 02:18:12PM 0 points [-]

Yeah, that's one way, and I suppose there is an important battle to be fought at the margin - some people can are on the boundry between celery and mars bar, and you may be able to help them.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 09 February 2016 07:24:59PM 0 points [-]

Yup, that is definitely a group we're targeting :-)

Comment author: ChristianKl 23 January 2016 06:53:09PM 1 point [-]

It seems like the target audience in this case are secular groups like atheist groups. Atheists groups currently form over being against theism which gets boring with time. I think those groups should be open to rationality if the pitch is right.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 24 January 2016 12:37:08AM 0 points [-]

Yup, all depends on the pitch - I answered a question about pitching it below.

Comment author: The_Jaded_One 23 January 2016 07:20:48PM 0 points [-]

Yes, this is true, it's a very big overlap.