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Comment author: buybuydandavis 27 February 2016 03:46:46AM *  3 points [-]

A consequence of this observation is that we should expect Marxists, who believe the free market doesn't work, to lie much more often than capitalists, who think it does.

Another way of spinning the problem.

Is it likely that someone who feels they have the right to rule you by force would refrain from lying to you to achieve the same obedience?

Comment author: Dagon 27 February 2016 09:17:06PM 0 points [-]

Absolutely. Many police officers, for instance, will violently enforce a law and not lie in the process. (many do both, of course, but a good portion of them are honest violent enforcers).

Comment author: buybuydandavis 01 March 2016 05:31:46AM 1 point [-]

Bad example for you. Cops feel entirely free to lie to suspects.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 01 March 2016 07:18:13AM 0 points [-]

Yeah, I'm skeptical of the claim that police lie less than non-police. They probably lie less than criminals, but that's not the right comparison.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 28 February 2016 01:55:49AM -1 points [-]

Yes, that's why looking at Democrats vs. Republicans is a better way of getting at that hypothesis, because there are fewer other differences.

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