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Comment author: Viliam 01 March 2016 01:44:50PM *  4 points [-]

It's about the defaults. The problem with political debates is that it is difficult to contain them -- they are likely to grow (because for almost any topic you can find a political point of view), and they attract new people who are interested more in promoting a political idea than about improving their own rationality.

So we can either explicitly support the norm "we don't debate politics (unless there is an exception)", or we can either explicitly or implicitly have the norm "political debates are okay". We have the former.

Maybe there are other possible solutions, such as trying to contain politics in specific threads, this was tried in the past (if I remember correctly, some people kept making more and more treads for debating NR pretending to be general political threads; or maybe it was other way round and all general political threads were hijacked to debate NR).

In theory, it should be possible to debate politics rationally, but in practice, we have problems keeping the debates civilized.

Comment author: Lumifer 01 March 2016 04:45:21PM 3 points [-]

but in practice, we have problems keeping the debates civilized.

Is this actually true? I don't think LW is having this kind of problems.

Same with "difficult to contain" -- I do not observe these difficulties.

Comment author: Torchlight_Crimson 03 March 2016 07:44:20AM *  1 point [-]

Hint: "civilized" is a euphemism for "not reaching conclusions that make Villiam feel uncomfortable".

Comment author: Viliam 03 March 2016 08:19:57AM 2 points [-]

No, it's an umbrella term for things including "not mass-downvoting people because they disagreed with you once", etc.

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 03 March 2016 11:03:29AM 1 point [-]

Hello back, Eugine.