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Comment author: MrMind 09 March 2016 10:53:02AM 1 point [-]

The underlying question "is gender biasing the production of scientific knowledge and scientific narratives?" I think is important and deserving of careful consideration, and the application of that question to the area of glaceology no more narrow than something like "the categorial semantics of the pi-calculus".
De-biasing knowledge in psychology is a recurrent theme in LessWrong, and gender is possibly a bias that is hampering scientific discovery.

It is doubly unfortunate that the theme is treated as if it were literary critique or politology, instead of experimental psychology: on one side, narrative instead of experimental exploration gets us no closer to the truth, on the other side it exposes the whole field to ridicule, thereby pushing away positive contribution.

Am I steel-manning too much? There were no such things as "feminist study" when I attended university, and even now it's not so widespread here in Italy, so I don't know if such disciplines are well-known academic jokes or not.

Comment author: Lumifer 09 March 2016 03:41:11PM 3 points [-]

The underlying question "is gender biasing the production of scientific knowledge and scientific narratives?"

Not quite -- your question belongs to the field of sociology of science, more or less, and this is a paper in an Earth sciences journal. The authors don't ask questions about gender bias, they specifically propose a "feminist glaciology framework", in part because they unconditionally assume that this bias exists and severely impacts the study of glaciers.

gets us no closer to the truth

I see no evidence whatsoever that this paper has any interest in what you or I might consider "truth" of the scientific kind.

I don't know if such disciplines are well-known academic jokes or not.

It depends on who you ask :-/