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Gram_Stone comments on Rationality Reading Group: Part V: Value Theory - Less Wrong Discussion

6 Post author: Gram_Stone 10 March 2016 01:11AM

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Comment author: gjm 17 March 2016 01:49:01PM *  1 point [-]

This is exactly the mistake from http://lesswrong.com/lw/ix/say_not_complexity/

I'm not sure it is. That's about claims of the form "Doing X needs complexity, so if we shovel in enough complexity we'll get X", whereas Gram_Stone [EDITED to add: oops, this is another place where I said "Gram_Stone" and should actually have said "the unspecified people Gram_Stone was disagreeing with] is saying something more like "It looks like no simple model will do X, so any that does X will necessarily turn out to be complex".

I don't know whether that's right -- sometimes complex-looking things turn out to have surprisingly simple explanations -- but it doesn't look either obviously wrong or fallacious. The author of "Say not complexity" also wrote "The hidden complexity of wishes" which is making a point not a million miles away from Gram_Stone's. [EDITED to add: or, more precisely, not-Gram_Stone's.]

Comment author: Gram_Stone 20 March 2016 04:37:38AM *  0 points [-]

whereas Gram_Stone is saying something more like "It looks like no simple model will do X, so any that does X will necessarily turn out to be complex".

Looks like you forgot to edit this one.

Comment author: gjm 20 March 2016 03:01:26PM 1 point [-]

I did. I have edited it now.