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NancyLebovitz comments on How It Feels to Improve My Rationality - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: SquirrelInHell 21 March 2016 03:31:31AM 1 point [-]

Thank you for articulating this clearly and without being aggressive. This is remarkable and I've started to pay more attention to this recently, seeing how the discussion culture on LW could use some niceness (which is not to say, losing the openness about pointing out mistakes etc. - just not being a jerk about it).

Unfortunately I can't give you what you want just yet, or at least not in satisfying quality and quantity. Writing about serious rationality stuff is hard, and I'm in the process of experimenting to figure it out. (As a temporary and poor stand-in, I can point to this post which contains some claims about dual process theory based on literature I never knew existed, but it overlaps very closely with what I generated independently - as indicated in my comment).

Apparently, many people reading my post wanted to know the same thing as you. It is slightly strange to me, because my intention was specifically to write only about the "impressions" side of this, which seemed to be neglected and as far I have seen, no one has ever pointed it out clearly.

So I'm not sure why everyone has this approach - I would be grateful if you could give me your thoughts on why do you think it is useful to know what excactly I thought I was being more rational about. Does it change something about how you interpret my description, if you assume I was wrong about object-level stuff, or if you assume I was right about it?

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 21 March 2016 03:21:48PM *  1 point [-]

As I said, at this point, all I know is that you think you're becoming more rational. I can't begin to tell whether yourfeelings are about becoming more rational unless I know in more detail about how your thinking has changed.

As for me, the most obvious change is that I'm less likely to go "Cool new thing that fits with my preconceptions! It must be true!" and more likely to think "Check on whether it actually makes sense and has sufficient evidence".

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 22 March 2016 01:45:46AM *  1 point [-]

I can't begin to tell whether yourfeelings are about becoming more rational

This extremely interesting!

It means your own feelings are so different from mine you can't just be like "check, mostly check, check, not check, check" (see e.g. Villiam's comment).

I didn't anticipate a large part of the readers to feel so differently from me, that they literally can't tell if what I'm saying correlates positively with rationality or not.

This was the source of my confusion, I guess.

Fun!

Learning stuff!