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The increasing uselessness of Promoted

19 Post author: PhilGoetz 19 March 2016 06:23PM

For some time now, "Promoted" has been reserved for articles written by MIRI staff, mostly about MIRI activities.  Which, I suppose, would be reasonable, if this were MIRI's blog.  But it isn't.  MIRI has its own blog.  It seems to me inconvenient both to readers of LessWrong, and to readers of MIRI's blog, to split MIRI's material up between the two.

People visiting lesswrong land on "Promoted", see a bunch of MIRI blogs, mostly written by people who don't read LessWrong themselves much anymore, and get a mistaken impression of what people talk about on LessWrong.  Also, LessWrong looks like a dying site, since often months pass between new posts.

I suggest the default landing page be "New", not "Promoted".

Comments (12)

Comment author: tim 02 April 2016 09:52:32AM *  1 point [-]

Good lord. I haven't been on LW in quite a while, but I wholeheartedly agree.

The collection of articles currently on the front page are painfully useless to someone looking to discuss "the art of human rationality" rather than be inundated with content blatantly serving the interests of a particular company/organization.

This content will (for the most part) appeal to people already in the fold. But what, in any way would a newcomer to the site gain from articles titled:

  • [ACRONYMYOUHAVENEVERHEARDOF] Is Hiring!
  • Why Is Our Company Great? Click Here To Find Out!
  • Donate Money To Us, Please!
  • Read About What Our Company Does - It's Super Important!
  • Please, Take Our Survey And Maybe WIN BIG!

Are these massively unfair oversimplifications of the actual content of the articles? Yes. Are these roughly along the lines of what a newcomer to the site will hear in their brain when they look at the front page? Almost certainly.

Comment author: LessWrong 20 March 2016 09:24:28AM 0 points [-]

How does the promoted thing even work? There's only one article that was written recently (one year ago), two from 2009 and one from 2007. (all sequences)

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 20 March 2016 03:18:09PM *  1 point [-]

Are you sure you're talking about Promoted? It has oldest entry from November. This is what I see (also, google cache). I wonder what Phil is seeing.

Comment author: LessWrong 20 March 2016 05:45:00PM 0 points [-]

I mixed it up with 'featured articles'. Sorry.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 19 March 2016 09:12:08PM 1 point [-]

This makes sense to me, but perhaps it's best expressed in the LessWrong potential changes post

Comment author: PhilGoetz 20 March 2016 12:50:21AM 0 points [-]

Oops. Yes. I can't move a post to a comment, though.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 20 March 2016 05:01:31PM 0 points [-]

Just post a link to your post there.

Comment author: CronoDAS 19 March 2016 07:23:44PM 1 point [-]

Yes, this has been a problem for some time - I just bookmarked the "New" page and completely ignored "Promoted" since the beginning...

Comment author: bogus 20 March 2016 02:57:44PM 1 point [-]

Well, /new is used for meetup announcements these days. Maybe you meant the Discussion page (where this post is)?

Comment author: CronoDAS 20 March 2016 08:43:03PM 1 point [-]

That was back when Main actually had content.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 20 March 2016 03:21:43PM 0 points [-]

/new is meetup announcements only if you aren't logged in. If you are logged in, I think it filters out irrelevant ones. I don't have a location set, so I don't see any of them (except Frank's roundups). But you're obviously logged in...

Comment author: Gram_Stone 19 March 2016 06:40:32PM *  1 point [-]

I agree, keeping in mind that this is easily reversible and that promoted posts will remain visible. And if anyone is thinking that this would reduce the apparent quality of the blog, the very worst Main posts are usually moved to Discussion by an administrator/moderator.

As for the plausibility of implementation, this blog ultimately does not belong to its userbase.