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8 Post author: johnlawrenceaspden 22 March 2016 03:46PM

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Comment author: johnlawrenceaspden 23 March 2016 02:50:42PM 1 point [-]

OK, I get it, thanks Elo.

If you believe that people don't respond to incentives, then we don't live in the same world.

If you believe that people only respond to monetary incentives, then we don't live in the same world.

The job is to work out which world we live in. Incentives is probably a big part of that!

Comment author: Clarity 23 March 2016 07:05:31PM *  1 point [-]

Incentives in and of themselves explain a relationship between the incentive and a referent thing incentivised by it. It's like saying 'force' in physics, which is incompatible within a framework of mutually exclusive but comprehensively exhaustive concepts which make up a interdisciplinary modelling kit for the world, but people were cool with it (till Einstein changed that) because of their narrow focus.

Comment author: johnlawrenceaspden 25 March 2016 06:18:05PM 1 point [-]

I'm too stupid to understand this. Could you dumb it down for me? Are you saying that the idea of force in physics was not simple, or good, or useful, or that it didn't explain a lot of things? Or have I got the wrong end of your stick?

Comment author: Clarity 26 March 2016 05:13:40AM 0 points [-]

Force in physics was simple, good and useful, but less simply, good and useful that relativity, which doesn't require 'force' as an explanatory mechanism because it doesn't explain a lot of things.