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15 Post author: SquirrelInHell 27 March 2016 05:32AM

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Comment author: Douglas_Knight 27 March 2016 08:34:25PM 2 points [-]

What video does youtube want me to watch after watching your video? "Don't abuse your dogs."

"Don't abuse X" is not very useful advise because it is a tautology because "abuse" is a negative word. It is not entirely useless because the existence of the statement warns you that it is common for people to abuse X (if you trust the author). And I guess that is your first message. Your second message is the symptom of a common form of abuse of productivity systems: ceasing to use them. But your main message is how to think about and thus prevent a common form of abuse. Perhaps it would be better if the title made that clearer. For example: "What does it mean to abuse a productivity system?" Or even just "Abuse of Productivity Systems."

Comment author: ChristianKl 28 March 2016 12:02:31AM 1 point [-]

What kind of empirical observsations would you expect to see in a world where "Abuse of Productivity Systems." is a more effective headline than "Don't abuse Productivity Systems"?

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 28 March 2016 02:26:21AM 2 points [-]

I don't know what Douglas_Knight was thinking, but I can see now that YouTube suggestions have indeed changed after changing the title of the video. Now the suggestions look more like popular philosophy or whatever than animal abuse. It's a very empirical observation, though it has nothing to do with reactions of humans.

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 27 March 2016 10:20:40PM *  1 point [-]

Accepted your suggestion, thanks a lot!

I think "don't abuse X" has more value as a slogan, and it's more memorable (partly because of its tautological wordiness?). That's the reason I chose it initially, but your point of view convinced me that it's worth signalling intellectuality in this case.

Comment author: PipFoweraker 30 March 2016 07:57:28PM 1 point [-]

I have a non-specific recollection that, generally speaking, phrasing directions in the positive imperative ("Treat dogs well") rather than a negative imperative ("Do not treat dogs badly") leads to better rates of recall / compliance.

If it interests you I'll ask around and find a proper reference.

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 31 March 2016 01:40:02AM 0 points [-]

Thanks, I heard about this too, so it's OK without a reference. Though in this case "treat your productivity systems well" makes for a poor title :)

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 27 March 2016 10:39:54PM 1 point [-]

I think it might be memorable because of the imperative. I'm skeptical that tautology or wordiness are productive, even of memory.