Clarity comments on Open Thread April 11 - April 17, 2016 - Less Wrong Discussion
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1. Validity of altruism
-Charity entrepreneurship
2. Challenging popular criticisms of Hinduism
This week a friend challenged my appreciation for the Hindu caste system alleging that lower caste people are servile. They may literally be servants in some cases, but they servile treatment, subsistence payment or slavery are incompatible with Hindu scripture (Sections IV.1 through IV.6, Manusmriti) which explitly disapproves of that means of survival for those those in what approximates the 'working stage' of one's life in English: 'Shvavritti' which means doglike subsistence, servitude or slavery. Others have probably explained this better elsewhere but I haven't checked.
Even then, the system is opt-out. Anyone can become a renunciate who are beyond caste.
He also raised the tension between moksha and ideals of liberation, and the explicit moral values of pleasure and wealth that are also Hindu cannon. Wikipedia resolves this succintly:
His final point wasn't a criticism, but the assertion that there is a unity between all religions. Religion is generally faith based, but Hinduism is not. Wikipedia again:
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2. Update on my love/sex life
She asked me why I don't have a girlfriend and other such questions. I reciprocated and she answered very candidly. I could even ask her if she had ever cheated on anyone, eventually, and she said yes. She asked me many a time if I am shy, and why I am shy, and if I am shy with her, and eventually I just took the hint and brought her closer as we sat at the banks of the river. When we walked away we walked hand in hand. The next night I escalated to asking her if she wanted to kiss me. She said I don't know, or something like that. I said, 'I want to kiss you' to which she said 'then do it' and I did, many a time after that. One time I said I want to make a porno jokingly, after the context was raised, and she said then make one with your roommate (she is my roommate too). But, I am still shy to take that hint, but another time I did get to rub her torso after to started rubbing my ... pant area. I asked her what she likes about me and she only said my skin colour and my teeth :/ Okay enough back story.
I wanted to recommend she applied for graphic design and video editing work which she is talented in, since she isn't sure what she can do career-wise, but now it's too late. I wanted to watch I, origins with her since it reflects our story. But now it's too late. I wanted to watch her favourite movie: 'one day' with her, which also reflects our story, but not it's too late. I wanted to hand write her a letter, but now it's too late. I wanted to suprise her after or during work, but now it's too late. I want to share with her 6/7 major secrets (the 7th being my passwords...), to show her how looked as a kit, and to 'dine at the y' but not it's too late. She pushed away when I sent her a goodmorning text, with a love heart at the end. I think she just wanted a casual hookup. At least I stopped jerking off :) Lately I felt undeserving of the experience. This cheered me up.
My social worker tells me that it's not so much the negative in this situation (since it's better than nothing, and previously) but the uncertainty that is stressful. Now having accepted that, I feel much better.
4. misc
'Get it together you pussy'
I'd guess that some otherwise inexplicable acts of gregarious violence can be explained by individual-social misalignment in terms of honour vs dignity culture
Do you have behavioural/competency based question preprepared answersl
A reference class databse would help would [reference class forecasting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referenceclassforecasting. Any expedient options?
How I have been rationalising a lack of social esteem:
If you are interested in ISKON, search up ritvikism
Not long after I met her she said I was childish so I started acting less playful, not she says I'm like a teenagerl. I don't get it. What's up with this?
As a lecturer recently said:
Other things I want to adapt to now:
Other action steps: Tell her I just want to have fun, play around, have xxx or something like that. It could be a god consolation prize. On the other hand, she said she would only have sex with a boyfriend early on. But, maybe I can still DATY or 'just the tip' which are opportunities I value highly since they 'can't be bought', at least safely or inexpensively that is...
Also I've forgotten that relationship based goals are destructive cause they assume we can control another person. So, vanquished!
I moved close to the city because research says that distance from work is one of the highest determinants of happiness, but I don't feel THAT much happier because of that, once accounting for other reasons I'm happy after the move. So now, I’m gonna hold off on making an income goal of 40,000 dollars a year after all monetary goals and minding doesn’t make us happier.
5. Personality disorder recovery log
Right now my mental health diagnosis is personality disorder not otherwhere specified which basically means I relate to people in abnormal ways but clinicians aren't sure how to label it. This section is for insights that seem useful to me, and that I would appreciate comment on. I seem to have depressive cognition like depressive personality disorder, self defeating (masochistic) traits, avoidant, borderline traits and narcissistic traits - not very proud of all that...well maybe a little ;) Clinicians tend to believe that it's more a cluster B personality disorder though.
I've been recommended for cognitive analytic therapy and psychodynamic therapy - more so the latter.
are women childish?
Can you give me a source for this? I've never heard of anyone renouncing their caste, and I have heard about many instances of lower-caste people lying about their caste, and I can't reconcile the two.
Beyond caste might be misleading. You can always become casteless, but that is worse than being the lowest caste.
Oh, OK. I suspected that's what Clarity meant. It's a bit misleading to call that "opting out".
Every sanyasi is beyond caste. You can ask them, it's an oral tradition more than a written tradition. People lie that they are lower caste too for affirmative action.
Well at least, your accounts are safe now.
Your first point matches what I've heard about people being very willing to work long hours to get time and a half pay.