WalterL comments on Exercise in rationality: popular quotes, revisited - Less Wrong Discussion
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"might rightly be told eventually to shut the hell up"
I don't think that disproves my version--being told to shut up still serves more than silence, as they learn that the timing of their questions and statements makes a difference. Or at least, ideally they still learn from the experience.
They shouldn't fear looking foolish, but learn and apply sense for when to speak.
It's hard to figure out how to phrase the comeback in favor of status games here, but its important.
Like, looking dumb is bad. Very bad. Better to look surly. (which is mainly bad because folks understand its usually hiding dumb). Once people believe that you are dumb it's mostly unrecoverable. They'll stop including you.