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Comment author: Lumifer 02 May 2016 04:37:23PM 1 point [-]

I am assuming a certain level of background knowledge here.

Knowledge? Our sincere Catholic girl is very knowledgeable. Perhaps you mean that your advice applies only to people with the "correct" moral systems?

Comment author: Gram_Stone 02 May 2016 05:13:33PM 0 points [-]

Not even. I'm assuming that her ontology for anything but the most immediate, important, tangible things would be practically useless. You can generate and possess an accurate world-model with a botched morality, but you're very unlikely to commit the moral action if the values are spot on but the world-model and its generator are botched. You should begin with ontology and epistemology and then move on to ethics.

Ironically, I actually talked about not feeling guilty, as opposed to feeling guilty, in the article above. But that probably wouldn't be helpful for someone like that either, even if it seems like it superficially would be in your thought experiment.

Comment author: Lumifer 02 May 2016 05:43:01PM 0 points [-]

I'm assuming that her ontology for anything but the most immediate, important, tangible things would be practically useless.

In which sense useless? She's a contemporary, educated girl, she can navigate this world perfectly well and you probably won't disagree with her about much in the descriptive sphere. What you would disagree about is the normative sphere, but that doesn't have to do much with ontology. Why do you assume that her "world-model" is botched? There are plenty of very bright religious people.