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Comment author: Babson 20 May 2016 02:23:24AM 4 points [-]

I discovered SSC and LW a ~couple months ago, from (I think) a Startpage search which led me to Scott's lengthy article on IQ. Only browsed for a while, but last night rediscovered this after I read Doing Good Better and went to the EA website. I remember CFAR from a Secular Student Alliance conference two years ago.

I like Scott's writing, but I have no hard science training unfortunately.

I have realized that I've become rather used to my comfort zone, and have sort of let my innate intelligence stagnate, when I like to think it still has room to grow. I had psychological testing six years ago that put my IQ at 131 which, if I interpret the survey results correctly, puts me near the bottom of this community? Despite that, I find the philosophical elements of Yudkowsky fascinating [not so much the more mathematical stuff]. At least, this site has made me sit at a computer longer than I'm accustomed to.

It seems from EY's writing that LW wanted to be a homogeneous community of like-minded (in both senses) people, but I am curious to what extent rationalists engage in outreach (other than CFAR I guess) towards more average individuals. Because that changes how one writes. Or is there a tacit resignation that more average people just won't care or grok it; that smarter individuals should focus on their own personal growth and happiness? But then I remember Scott's writing and seeming compassion, and also the percentage of users who are social-democratic, so it seems like there would be higher demand for actually communicating with the outgroup.

I entered the humanities because I wanted to be a professor and I like to write, I like foreign languages, didn't think I would be interested in heavier things (took some psychology and philosophy as a postbac) but now I'm too far into my MA where I'm not sure I could get into an additional Master's program in something meaty and then pursue a better, more intellectually stimulating career.

Ultimately I just want to teach and "help" people. So, that's where I'm at. I read/skimmed DGB yesterday in one sitting while in the middle of yet another existential depression that my shrink thinks was caused by going off an opioid. I can't remember the last time I consumed a book in one sitting.

This was longer than I intended. Thank you.

Comment author: Lumifer 20 May 2016 02:32:26PM 1 point [-]

puts me near the bottom of this community?

No, I don't think so. Self-reported IQs from a self-selected group have a bias. I'll let you guess in which direction :-)

I am curious to what extent rationalists engage in outreach (other than CFAR I guess) towards more average individuals

There's Gleb Tsipursky and his Intentional Insights, but from my point of view this whole endeavour looks quite unfortunate. YMMV, of course.

Comment author: Babson 21 May 2016 09:03:04PM 1 point [-]

"No, I don't think so. Self-reported IQs from a self-selected group have a bias. I'll let you guess in which direction :-)"

Of course, but I guess that I would expect a site helping its members to "Overcome Bias" would provide more trustworthy data! :)

Comment author: Lumifer 22 May 2016 11:53:00PM 0 points [-]

"More trustworthy" != trustworthy.

Comment author: Babson 23 May 2016 12:39:47AM 0 points [-]

Haha, yes indeed.