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ChristianKl comments on Open Thread May 30 - June 5, 2016 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: ChristianKl 01 June 2016 12:13:50PM 1 point [-]

I remember LW discussions where a study was cited about how psychologists compare to lay people when they do counselling. Does anybody have a link?

Comment author: gjm 01 June 2016 12:26:03PM -1 points [-]

This is definitely not that, but might be interesting for similar reasons: Scott Alexander's post called Scientific Freud.

Comment author: Clarity 03 June 2016 02:13:27PM -1 points [-]

I think I posted that. It's not hard to find the study - it's not counselling, it's CBT specifically.

Comment author: ChristianKl 03 June 2016 04:24:09PM 0 points [-]

Finding a study is always about finding the right keywords. I didn't find it with the keyboard that came to my mind. If you still remember the right keywords how about posting a link?

Comment author: Clarity 04 June 2016 03:21:36AM *  0 points [-]

That's not always how you find a study.

I map my ontology to wikipedia.

The closest relevant top is the Dodo BIrd verdict on wikipedia. From a quick scan I couldn't find what I was looking for, but I'm somewhat confident it'll have the right leads. Also, I remember another study suggesting new psychologists were more effective at CBT than experienced ones.

I would dig harder to find the study, but I reckon it's misleading in isolation anyway. The larger, wider body of evidence overwhelmingly suggests the biggest factor in therapeutic success in the 'therapeutic alliance', a relationship level factor, not the therapy itself, or the characteristics individually of the patient of clinician.