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I fear some people will quickly learn how to game the system. No wonder our current society is so complicated, every time a group came up with a simple and brilliant way to create the perfect utopia, it always failed miserably.
(also, try selling your idea to the average voter, I would love to see their faces when you mention "logarithm of total social product")
Sure telling people that logarithms are involved will probably not help :-)
Also oversimplification probably wouldn't work either.
One key point is that - at a suitable level of abstraction - you can actually prove invariants of the system like limits to individual income/property/power. Invariants that you might or might not want to have.
You can prove limits to formal income/property/power but not to informal income/property/power.
Yes. I kind of assumed that me leaving out formal definitions would prime people to think of plausible ones on their own - not that there are none or that I implied informal ones only. I gave some in the other comment.
Or are you suggesting that a) there are no formal definitions or b) that there is no useful relationship between formal and informal definitions?
There are formal definitions but even through a country like North Korea doesn't like free markets it has Black markets in which people can earn income.
In times of high taxes in France, rich people for example started to aquire a lot more art because art doesn't have an easily measureable and thus easily taxable value.
Today it's possible to have assets in cryptocurrency.
The idea is not to not have markets.
The idea also isn't to take property away from people. They don't like it...
The idea is to a) embed a better system in the existing society and b) to use basically existing and working means a systematic way, e.g. via contracts a la the viral GPL. If the system is better it will grow and eventually absorb the rest of society not by taking things away but by outcompeting.
I'm asking to imagine such a system and what rules it works on. And don't tell me the current system is perfect.