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turchin comments on Open thread, Jul. 04 - Jul. 10, 2016 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 04 July 2016 08:59:14PM *  1 point [-]

You went to some ends to make the list comprehensive. I have only a few comments:

_5. Lack of knowledge in logic, statistic, brain science, scientific method etc.

I don't think this strictly meets your requirement that it doesn't "allow a person to see and cure his other biases". Sure science helps but I think that many laymen already to profit from bias literature otherwise self-help books - some of which picking up biases wouldn't work. Or don't they? Maybe the point really is that the required preliminaries are so many or organized in such a way that you can't go there from here.

_9. Lack of motivation

This is relatively broad. It can be seen to include 4, 5 and 10.

I also tried to come up with other options which was hard. Here is my try:

_11. Greed (or other highly focusing motivations like existential needs). Takes energy away from self improvement. This appears to be a special case of your 9 which I see as too general.

_12. Social pressure. Thinking about own fallacies may not be socially acceptable in the peer group. This is different from 2 -Dogmatism.

Maybe this list could be structured a bit into psychological, cognitive and belief structure items.

Minor nitpick: The formatting of the numbered list seems to be broken.

Comment author: turchin 04 July 2016 09:04:02PM 1 point [-]

Thanks for your suggestions and nitpick.