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A quick and dirty inspiration: that value alignment is very hard is showed by very intelligent people going neoreactionary or convert to a religion from atheism. They usually base their 'move' on a coherent epistemology, with just some tiny components that zag instead of zigging.
Comment at will, I'll expand with more thoughts.
This is a very weak argument, since it might simply show that coherent epistemology leads to everyone becoming religious, or neo-reactionary.
In other words, your arguments just says "very intelligent people disagree with me, so that must be because of perverse values."
It could also just be that you are wrong.
Uhm, it's evident I've not made my argument very clear (which is not a surprise, since I've wrote that stub in less than a minute).
Let me rephrase it in a way that addresses your point:
"Value alignment is very hard, because two people, both very intelligent and with a mostly coherent epistemology, can radically differ in their values because of a very tiny difference.
Think for example to neoreactionaries or rationalists converted to religions: they have a mostly coherent set of beliefs, often diverging from atheist or progressive rationalists in very few points."
I am saying that is a difference in belief, not in values, or not necessarily in values.
They want to steer the future in a different direction than what I want, so by definition they have different values (they might be instrumental values, but those are important too).
Ok, but in this sense every human being has different values by definition, and always will.