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ChristianKl comments on A Weird Trick To Manage Your Identity - Less Wrong Discussion

2 Post author: Gleb_Tsipursky 19 September 2016 07:13PM

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Comment author: ChristianKl 19 September 2016 08:59:29PM -2 points [-]

I don't think the term "weird" is very conductive to having a healthy self-esteem.

Comment author: Gram_Stone 19 September 2016 09:26:05PM 3 points [-]

Doesn't this tribe celebrate weirdness? We Think Like a Quantum Reality, allocate Weirdness Points, freeze our brains, give large sums of money to strangers, and drink our food. Er, some of us do some of these things. Being 'normal' is probably less conducive to self-esteem than being weird 'round here.

Also, seems like the trick still works if you identify as a pleglish American.

Comment author: ChristianKl 20 September 2016 09:08:11AM 2 points [-]

The idea of allocating Weirdness points, is to be very careful about not displaying too much weirdness. It's the opposite of celebrating it.

If you read what EY writes about cryonics there's no a suggestion that signing up for cryonics is weird. It's rather that it's the rational thing that every clearthinking human does.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 20 September 2016 01:59:22AM -2 points [-]

Weird works for me, and I actually associate positive value with weirdness. But of course your mileage may vary. Any term that works to indicate distance from an identity label viscerally to one's System 1 will do, as Gram_Stone pointed out.

Comment author: ChristianKl 20 September 2016 09:18:22AM 0 points [-]

I can find plenty of people who report that chakra healing worked for them. There are self-reports for a lot of things working for people. That doesn't mean those things are necessarily good.

In this case it likely works for you in the sense that it produces a disassociation. Disassociating emotions is however generally not a optimal strategy for dealing with emotions. Mainstream psychology is generally against it.

There advantages of becoming a psychopath, but doing disassociative techniques that move in that direction is still not something I would recommend.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 20 September 2016 12:46:22PM -2 points [-]

I agree that it does produce disassociation, but I don't think, for me, it's about disassociating from emotions. It's a disassociation from an identity label. It helps keep my identity small in way that speaks to my System 1 well.

Comment author: scarcegreengrass 19 September 2016 09:14:52PM 1 point [-]

'eccentric'?

Comment author: ChristianKl 20 September 2016 09:05:23AM 0 points [-]

"Special" seems to have a more positive connotation.

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 20 September 2016 07:37:32PM 0 points [-]

But there's a strong negative connection with "special care" and "special needs"...

Comment author: ChristianKl 20 September 2016 07:58:06PM 0 points [-]

I likely wouldn't use it either but I would see it as better as weird or eccentric.