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0 Post author: Fallibilist 06 December 2017 05:26PM

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Comment author: Fallibilist 08 December 2017 09:54:23AM 0 points [-]

Unreason is accepting the claims of a paper at face value, appealing to its authority, and, then, when this is pointed out to you, claiming the other party is unreasonable.

I was aware of AlphaGo Zero before I posted -- check out my link. Note that it can't even learn the rules of the game. Humans can. They can learn the rules of all kinds of games. They have a game-rule learning universality. That AlphaGo Zero can't learn the rules of one game is indicative of how much domain knowledge the developers actually put into it. They are fooling themselves if they think AlphaGo Zero has superhuman learning ability and to be progress towards AI.

Comment author: Lumifer 08 December 2017 03:55:23PM *  0 points [-]

Unreason is accepting the claims of a paper at face value, appealing to its authority

Which particular claim that the paper makes I accepted at face value and which you think is false? Be specific.

I was aware of AlphaGo Zero before I posted -- check out my link

AlphaGo Zero and AlphaZero are different things -- check out my link.

In any case, are you making the claim that if a neural net were able to figure out the rules of the game by examining a few million games, you would accept that it's a universal knowledge creator?

Comment author: akvadrako 21 January 2018 10:48:29AM *  0 points [-]

In any case, are you making the claim that if a neural net were able to figure out the rules of the game by examining a few million games, you would accept that it's a universal knowledge creator?

If it could figure out the rules of any game that would be remarkable. That logic would also really help to find bugs in programs or beat the stock market.