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thefishinthetank comments on Happiness Is a Chore - Less Wrong Discussion

0 Post author: SquirrelInHell 20 December 2017 11:11AM

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Comment author: MaryCh 23 December 2017 06:02:54PM 1 point [-]

I feel so much freer when I don't have to demonstrate that I am happy.

Sometimes, it almost seems like I am truly happy only when I "escape" or "triumph" over something that almost "ate me up": my husband's household, the Department that I had gone to for a PhD thesis... the genuinely nice psychiatrist who soothes my Mother's fears... Like "I am happy when I have proved that I haven't changed, because change is corruption". So yes, [feeling happy] is one of the necessary chores of self-maintenance. I don't get why I should want it more than, say, a chance to sleep in.

OTOH, joy is very different. It kind of just happens, unasked-for.

Comment author: thefishinthetank 04 January 2018 07:27:36AM 1 point [-]

OTOH, joy is very different. It kind of just happens, unasked-for.

This is the happiness we are really searching for. The other kind is better described as pleasure.

Comment author: MaryCh 05 January 2018 03:23:17PM 0 points [-]

Well, in my life I can recall two instances off-hand. There have probably been more of them, but at the very least, they seem to be completely unrelated to attempts to raise well-being levels...