Lesswrong, Effective Altruism Forum and Slate Star Codex: Harm Reduction
Cross Posted at the EA Forum
At Event Horizon (a Rationalist/Effective Altruist house in Berkeley) my roommates yesterday were worried about Slate Star Codex. Their worries also apply to the Effective Altruism Forum, so I'll extend them.
The Problem:
Lesswrong was for many years the gravitational center for young rationalists worldwide, and it permits posting by new users, so good new ideas had a strong incentive to emerge.
With the rise of Slate Star Codex, the incentive for new users to post content on Lesswrong went down. Posting at Slate Star Codex is not open, so potentially great bloggers are not incentivized to come up with their ideas, but only to comment on the ones there.
The Effective Altruism forum doesn't have that particular problem. It is however more constrained in terms of what can be posted there. It is after all supposed to be about Effective Altruism.
We thus have three different strong attractors for the large community of people who enjoy reading blog posts online and are nearby in idea space.
Possible Solutions:
(EDIT: By possible solutions I merely mean to say "these are some bad solutions I came up with in 5 minutes, and the reason I'm posting them here is because if I post bad solutions, other people will be incentivized to post better solutions)
If Slate Star Codex became an open blog like Lesswrong, more people would consider transitioning from passive lurkers to actual posters.
If the Effective Altruism Forum got as many readers as Lesswrong, there could be two gravity centers at the same time.
If the moderation and self selection of Main was changed into something that attracts those who have been on LW for a long time, and discussion was changed to something like Newcomers discussion, LW could go back to being the main space, with a two tier system (maybe one modulated by karma as well).
The Past:
In the past there was Overcoming Bias, and Lesswrong in part became a stronger attractor because it was more open. Eventually lesswrongers migrated from Main to Discussion, and from there to Slate Star Codex, 80k blog, Effective Altruism forum, back to Overcoming Bias, and Wait But Why.
It is possible that Lesswrong had simply exerted it's capacity.
It is possible that a new higher tier league was needed to keep post quality high.
A Suggestion:
I suggest two things should be preserved:
Interesting content being created by those with more experience and knowledge who have interacted in this memespace for longer (part of why Slate Star Codex is powerful), and
The opportunity (and total absence of trivial inconveniences) for new people to try creating their own new posts.
If these two properties are kept, there is a lot of value to be gained by everyone.
The Status Quo:
I feel like we are living in a very suboptimal blogosphere. On LW, Discussion is more read than Main, which means what is being promoted to Main is not attractive to the people who are actually reading Lesswrong. The top tier quality for actually read posting is dominated by one individual (a great one, but still), disincentivizing high quality posts by other high quality people. The EA Forum has high quality posts that go unread because it isn't the center of attention.
Some secondary statistics from the results of LW Survey
| Global LW (N=643) vs USA LW (N=403) vs. Average US Household (Comparable Income) | |||||||||||||
| Income Bracket | LW Mean Contributions | USA LW Mean Contribution | US Mean Contributions** [1] | LW Mean Income | USA LW Mean Income | US Mean*** Income [1] | LW Contributions /Income | USA LW Contributions/Income | US Contributions/Income [1] | ||||
| $0 - $25000 (41% of LW) | $1,395.11 | $935.47 | $1,177.52 | $11,241.14 | $11,326.18 | $15,109.85 | 12.41% | 8.26% | 7.79% | ||||
| $25000-$50000 (17% of LW) | $438.25 | $571.00 | $1,748.08 | $34,147.14 | $32,758.06 | $38,203.79 | 1.28% | 1.74% | 4.58% | ||||
| $50000-$75000 (12% of LW) | $1,757.77 | $1,638.59 | $2,191.58 | $60,387.69 | $61,489.30 | $62,342.05 | 2.91% | 2.66% | 3.52% | ||||
| $75000-$100000 (9% of LW) | $1,883.36 | $2,211.81 | $2,624.81 | $84,204.09 | $83,049.54 | $87,182.68 | 2.24% | 2.66% | 3.01% | ||||
| $100000-$200000 (16% of LW) | $3,645.73 | $3,372.84 | $3,555.02 | $123,581.28 | $124,577.88 | $137,397.03 | 2.95% | 2.71% | 2.59% | ||||
| >$200000 (5% of LW) | $14,162.35 | $15,970.67 | $15,843.97 | $296,884.63 | $299,444.44 | $569,447.35 | 4.77% | 5.33% | 2.78% | ||||
| Total | $2,265.56 | $2,669.85 | $3,949.26 | $62,285.72 | $75,130.37 | $133,734.60 | 3.64% | 3.55% | 2.95% | ||||
| All < $200000 | $1,689.36 | $1,649.32 | $2,515.29 | $51,254.43 | $58,306.81 | $81,207.03 | 3.30% | 2.83% | 3.10% | ||||
| Global LW (N=643) vs USA LW (N=403) vs. Average US Citizen (Comparable Age) | |||
| Age Bracket* | LW Median | US LW Median | US Median*** [2] |
| 15-24 | $17,000.00 | $20,000.00 | $26,999.13 |
| 25-34 | $50,000.00 | $60,504.00 | $45,328.70 |
| All <35 | $40,000.00 | $58,000.00 | $40,889.57 |
| Global LW (N=407) vs USA LW (N=243) vs. Average US Citizen (Comparable IQ) | |||
| Average LW** | US LW | US Between 125-155 IQ [3] | |
| Median Income | $40,000.00 | $58,000.00 | $60,528.70 |
| Mean Contributions | $2,265.56 | $2,669.85 | $2,016.00 |
Note: Three data points were removed from the sample due to my subjective opinion that they were fake. Any self-reported IQs of 0 were removed. Any self-reported income of 0 was removed.
*89% of the LW population is between the age of 15 and 34.
**88% of the LW population has an IQ between 125 and 155, with an average IQ of 138.
****Median numbers were adjusted down by a factor of 1.15 to account for the fact that the source data was calculating household median income rather than individual median income.
[1] Internal Revenue Service, Charitable Giving by Households that Itemize Deductions (AGI and Itemized Contributions Summary by Zip, 2012), The Urban Institute, National Center for Charitable Statistics
[2] U.S. Census Bureau, Current Population Survey, 2013 and 2014 Annual Social and Economic Supplements.
[3] Do you have to be smart to be rich? The impact of IQ on wealth, income and financial distress Intelligence, Vol. 35, No. 5. (September 2007), by Jay L. Zagorsky
Update 1: Updated chart 1&2 to account for the fact that the source data was calculating household median income rather than individual income.
Update 2: Reverted Chart 1 back to original because I realized that the purpose was to compare LWers to those in similar income brackets. So in that situation, whether it's a household or an individual is not as relevant. It does penalize households to an extent because they have less money available to donate to charity because they're splitting their money three ways.
Update 3: Updated all charts to include data that is filtered for US only.
Less Wrong Sequences+Website feed app for Android
I use my Android phone much more than my computer, and reading the Sequences on a mobile device is a pain. I needed an easy way to access the Sequences, but since there are no apps for this website I had to create one myself. Since I'm no app developer, I used the IBuildApp.com(trustworthy according to my research) website to make the application.
Features:
* Read ALL of the main Sequences and most of the minor ones
* RSS feed to LessWrong.com for latest articles
* No ads!
Drawbacks:
*Requires an Internet connection: I individually copy-pasted each Sequence(from the compilations of posts that many people have made) to the app. Unfortunately, the app development website did not save these on the app itself, but on its server. So to access a Sequence, you require an Internet connection.
*Home screen doesn't look good, because I couldn't get an appropriately sized logo that the website would accept. The Index(where you access the Sequences) looks pretty neat though.
If there are any mobile app developers here, please try to make a better version of it(hopefully one where data is saved offline). I made this for personal use so it's functional but could be done much better by a professional. I'm posting it here for other Android-using people(especially newbies like me) who might find this useful.
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