Armok_GoB comments on Open Thread: September 2011 - LessWrong

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Comment author: Armok_GoB 11 September 2011 09:17:09AM 1 point [-]

A placebo will help if you think the pill you're taking will help. This may be because you think it's a non-placebo pill that'd help even if you didn't know you were taking it, or because you know it's a placebo but think placebos work. If you were given a placebo pill, told it was just a candy and given no indication it might help anything, it wouldn't do anything because it's just sugar. Likewise if you're given a placebo, know it's a placebo, and are convince on al levels that there is no chance of it working.

Comment author: handoflixue 12 September 2011 06:26:25PM 1 point [-]

Right. So find someone who will tell you it's a placebo, and read up on the research that says it does work. It'd be irrational to believe that they don't work, given the volume of research out there.

Comment author: Armok_GoB 12 September 2011 06:36:14PM -2 points [-]

facepalms Did you even read any other post in this thread?

Comment author: handoflixue 12 September 2011 08:27:44PM 1 point [-]

Yes, but you have to BELIEVE the placebos will help.

Quite a few of them. You're being vague enough that I can only play with the analogies you give me. You gave me the analogy of a placebo not working if you don't believe in it; I pointed out that disbelief in placebos is rather irrational.

Comment author: Armok_GoB 12 September 2011 09:09:45PM 0 points [-]

Trying to figure out if it's rational or not, and if so HOW it's rational so I can convince my brain of it, is exactly what the entire discussion is about starting from the first post here: http://lesswrong.com/lw/7fo/open_thread_september_2011/4r8q

Comment author: lessdazed 12 September 2011 06:43:56PM 0 points [-]

Can anyone think of a better thing to have said here?