Vaniver comments on Open Thread: September 2011 - LessWrong

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Comment author: MinibearRex 23 September 2011 01:44:29AM 0 points [-]

I got in a discussion with a philosophy grad student today, who told me that the question of whether thoughts were "just" patterns of neural flashes, or if there was something epiphenomenal going on, was still a serious open question. I'm really hoping that this is just a description of the current state of affairs in the philosophy world, and not the neuroscience world, but she seemed rather insistent on this point. This isn't actually considered an open question in neurobiology, right?

Comment author: Vaniver 23 September 2011 01:55:23AM 0 points [-]

I think the question here is not "is this an open question" but "are there people who disbelieve this?". I can imagine neurobiologists who cannot rule out epiphenomena about thoughts.

Comment author: MinibearRex 23 September 2011 04:02:23AM 0 points [-]

True, I can imagine that as well. I guess my question was really more about prevalence. How common are these people?

Comment author: Vaniver 23 September 2011 02:18:01PM 0 points [-]

I came across this in an unrelated discussion:

Neuroscientists generally assume that all mental processes have a concrete neurobiological basis.

Searching for something similar in Google Scholar might give you lots of sources to suggest to the grad student that most neuroscientists are reductionists.

Comment author: Jack 29 September 2011 11:19:20AM 3 points [-]

Neuroscientists generally assume that all mental processes have a concrete neurobiological basis.

This is vague enough to not be at all inconsistent with epiphenomenalism.