muflax comments on The curse of identity - LessWrong

121 Post author: Kaj_Sotala 17 November 2011 07:28PM

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Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 17 November 2011 02:51:20PM *  6 points [-]

For one, status-seeking is a zero sum game and only indirectly causes overall gains. The world would be a much better place if people actually cared about things like saving the world or even helping others, and put a little thought to it.

Also, mismatches between our consciously-held goals and our behavior cause plenty of frustration and unhappiness, like in the case of the person who keeps stressing out because their studies don't progress.

Comment author: [deleted] 17 November 2011 03:35:14PM -2 points [-]

For one, status-seeking is a zero sum game and only indirectly causes overall gains.

But if status-seeking is what you really want, as evidenced by your decisions, how can you say it's bad that you do it? Can't I just go and claim any goal you're not optimizing for as your "real" goal you "should" have? Alternatively, can't I claim that you only want us to drop status-seeking to get rid of the competition? Where's your explanatory power?

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 17 November 2011 04:04:44PM *  2 points [-]

But if status-seeking is what you really want, as evidenced by your decisions, how can you say it's bad that you do it?

By the suffering it causes, and also by the fact that when I have realized that I'm doing it, I've stopped doing (that particular form of) it.