JoshuaZ comments on Holden's Objection 1: Friendliness is dangerous - LessWrong

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Comment author: TimS 18 May 2012 02:36:45AM 6 points [-]

There's a chicken and egg issue here. Were pre-existing anti-homosexuality values co-opted into early Judaism? Or did the Judeo-Chiristian ideology spread the values beyond their "natural" spread? The only empirical evidence for this question I can think of is non-Judeo-Christian attitudes. What are the historical attitudes towards homosexuality among East Asians and South Asians?

More broadly, people's attitudes towards women and nerds are just as much expressions of values, not long-ranged utilitarian calculations.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 18 May 2012 02:40:12AM *  2 points [-]

I don't know the history in East Asia, but closer to where the Abrahamic religions arose one had the ancient Greeks who were ok with most forms of homosexuality. The only reservations they had about homosexuality as I understand it had to do with issues of honor if one were a male who was penetrated.

Edit: I get the impression from this article that the attitudes of ancient Indians to homosexuality has become so bogged down in modern politics that it may be difficult for non-experts to tell. I'll try to look into this more later.